States Minutes 11 November 2025
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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 11th November 2025, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Robert James MacRae , Esquire.
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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,
Vice-Admiral Jeremy Paul Kyd, C.B.E. was present. __________________
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Connétable Karen Shenton-Stone of St. Martin – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 10.34 a.m.) Connétable Richard Anthony Kingston Honeycombe of St. Ouen – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 12.06 p.m.)
Deputy Lyndon John Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.51 a.m.)
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Prayers
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Standing Order 55A – remote participation
THE STATES, with reference to their Act dated 14th September 2021, in which they had agreed that, notwithstanding Standing Order 55A(1), Members who did not wish to attend in the States Chamber might continue to take part in States meetings using Microsoft Teams (until the States had considered and voted upon a proposition to re-apply Standing Order 55A(1) or to repeal or vary the terms of the Standing Order), assembled in accordance with Standing Order 55A with Members able to participate remotely using Microsoft Teams. The following Members attended remotely, either for all or part of the meeting –
Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade
Deputy Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter
Deputy Thomas John Albert Binet of St. Saviour
Deputy Lucy Kate Frances Stephenson of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter
Subordinate enactments tabled
The following enactments were tabled, namely –
Lodging Houses (General Provisions) (Jersey) Amendment Order 2025. R&O.59/2025. Minister for Housing.
Children and Young People (Independent Advocates) (Jersey) Commencement Order R&O.60/2025. 2025.
Minister for Children and Families.
Collective Investment Funds (Recognized Funds) (Rules) (Jersey) Amendment Order R&O.61/2025. 2025.
Minister for External Relations.
Sustainable Economic Development (2026 Fees) (Jersey) Amendment Order 2025. R&O.62/2025. Minister for Sustainable Economic Development.
Children and Civil Status (Jersey) Commencement Order 2025. R&O.63/2025. Minister for Children and Families.
Road Traffic (Speed Limits) (Jersey) Amendment No. 3 Order 2025. R&O.64/2025. Minister for Infrastructure.
Documents presented
Draft Harbours (Inshore Safety) (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202- (P.3/2025): P.3/2025. comments. Com.(3). Presented: 7th November 2025, Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel.
Draft Regulation of Care (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- (P.57/2025): comments. P.57/2025. Presented: 7th November 2025, Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Affairs Com. Scrutiny Panel.
Draft Dogs Law (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202- (P.63/2025) – comments. P.63/2025. Presented: 7th November 2025, Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Affairs Com.(2). Scrutiny Panel.
Draft Dogs Law (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202- (P.63/2025): amendment P.63/2025. (P.63/2025 Amd.) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment. Amd.Add. Presented: 28th October 2025, Comité des Connétable s.
Draft Assisted Dying (Jersey) Law 202- (P.65/2025): addendum. P.65/2025. Presented: 27th October 2025, Minister for Health and Social Services. Add.(2).
Commercial Properties and Leases (P.68/2025): amendment (P.68/2025 Amd.) – P.68/2025. Children's Rights Impact Assessment. Amd.Add. Presented: 5th November 2025, Council of Ministers.
Draft Competition (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- (P.69/2025): comments. P.69/2025. Presented: 7th November 2025, Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel. Com.
Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2026-2029 (P.70/2025): amendment. (P.70/2025 P.70/2025. Amd.) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment. Amd.Add. Presented: 31st October 2025, Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour .
Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2026-2029 (P.70/2025): third amendment P.70/2025. (P.70/2025 Amd.(3)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment. Amd.(3). Presented: 11th November 2025, Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel. Add.
Draft Jersey Mutual Insurance Society (Transfer) Law 202- (P.71/2025): comments. P.71/2025. Presented: 30th October 2025, Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel. Com.
Commonwealth Parliamentary Association Election Observers (P.74/2025): comments. P.74/2025. Presented: 7th November 2025, Privileges and Procedures Committee. Com.
Draft Policing of Parks (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202- (P.90/2025) – Children's P.90/2025. Rights Impact Assessment. Add. Presented: 27th October 2025, Minister for Infrastructure.
Draft Jersey Gas Company Amendment Law 202- (P.91/2025) – Children's Rights P.91/2025. Impact Assessment. Add. Presented: 27th October 2025, Minister for Justice and Home Affairs.
Draft Social Security Law (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202- (P.92/2025) – P.92/2025. Children's Rights Impact Assessment. Add. Presented: 27th October 2025, Minister for Social Security.
Draft Finance (2026 Budget) (Jersey) Law 202- (P.93/2025) – Children's Rights Impact P.93/2025. Assessment. Add. Presented: 27th October 2025, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Finance (2026 Budget) (Jersey) Law 202- has immediate effect: second addendum P.93/2025. to P.93/2025. Add.(2). Presented: 28th October 2025, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Management and Maintenance of the Havre des Pas Site (P.94/2025) – Children's P.94/2025. Rights Impact Assessment. Add. Presented: 28th October 2025, Deputy D.J. Warr of St. Helier South .
Management and Maintenance of the Havre des Pas Site (P.94/2025): comments. P.94/2025. Presented: 7th November 2025, Council of Ministers. Com.
Draft Public Records (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- (P.95/2025) – Children's Rights P.95/2025. Impact Assessment. Add. Presented: 28th October 2025, Minister for Sustainable Economic Development.
Draft Animal Welfare (Jersey) Law 202- (P.97/2025) – Children's Rights Impact P.97/2025. Assessment. Add. Presented: 29th October 2025, Minister for the Environment.
Draft Registrar of Intellectual Property (Jersey) Law 202- (P.98.2025) – Children's P.98/2025. Rights Impact Assessment. Add. Presented: 29th October 2025, Minister for External Relations.
Draft Taxation (International Tax Compliance) (Crypto-Asset Reporting Framework) P.99/2025. (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.99/2025) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment. Add. Presented: 29th October 2025, Minister for External Relations.
Draft Taxation (Implementation) (International Tax Compliance) (Common Reporting P.100/2025. Standard) (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202- (P.100/2025) – Children's Rights Add. Impact Assessment.
Presented: 29th October 2025, Minister for External Relations.
Breaches of the Code of Conduct: Review of Standing Orders (P.101/2025) – Children's P.101/2025. Rights Impact Assessment. Add. Presented: 4th November 2025, Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour .
Transfers between Heads of Expenditure under the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2019: R.149/2025. Article 18 – 23rd October 2025.
Presented: 23rd October 2025, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Transfers between Heads of Expenditure under the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2019: R.150/2025. Article 18 – 23rd October 2025. Junior Doctors Pay Award.
Presented: 23rd October 2025, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Transfers between Heads of Expenditure under the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2019: R.151/2025. Article 18 – 23rd October 2025.
Amendments to Project Budgets.
Presented: 23rd October 2025, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Organisations receiving grants of over £75,000 in 2024. R.152/2025. Presented: 24th October 2025, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
The Law Society of Jersey Disciplinary Panel: Re-Appointment of Lay Members. R.153/2025. Presented: 29th October 2025, Minister for Justice and Home Affairs
Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – Land Transfer – Boundaries between R.154/2025. public and the former Water's Edge Hotel site.
Presented: 30th October 2025, Minister for Infrastructure.
Transfers between Heads of Expenditure under the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2019: R.155/2025. Article 18 – 31st October 2025.
Presented: 31st October 2025, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Jersey Surrogacy Guidance. R.156/2025. Presented: 31st October 2025, Minister for Children and Families.
Land Transactions Under Standing Order 168(3) – Apartment 7, Block E, Quennevais R.157/2025. Park.
Presented: 31st October 2025, Minister for Infrastructure.
Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – Lease – Havre des Pas Bathing Pool R.158/2025. and Café.
Presented: 3rd November 2025, Minister for Infrastructure.
Education Reform Programme. R.159/2025. Presented: 7th November 2025, Comptroller and Auditor General.
Top 100 Suppliers 2023 Summary report. R.160/2025. Presented: 11th November 2025, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Top 100 Suppliers 2024 Summary report. R.161/2025. Presented: 11th November 2025, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
What protection do children in Jersey have from online harms? S.R.4/2025. Presented: 7th November 2025, Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel.
Notification of lodged propositions
Draft Dogs Law (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202- (P.63/2025): amendment. P.63/2025. Lodged: 28th October 2025, Comité des Connétable s. Amd.
Commercial Properties and Leases (P.68/2025): amendment. P.68/2025. Lodged: 5th November 2025, Council of Ministers. Amd.
Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2026-2029 (P.70/2025): amendment. P.70/2025. Development Levies. Amd. Lodged: 31st October 2025, Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour .
Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2026-2029 (P.70/2025): second amendment. P.70/2025. Health Insurance Fund Contributions. Amd.(2). Lodged: 4th November 2025, Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache of St. Clement .
Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2026-2029 (P.70/2025): third amendment. P.70/2025. Jersey Public Services Ombudsperson – Head of Expenditure. Amd.(3). Lodged: 11th November 2025, Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.
Draft Policing of Parks (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202-. P.90/2025. Lodged: 27th October 2025, Minister for Infrastructure.
Draft Jersey Gas Company Amendment Law 202-. P.91/2025. Lodged: 27th October 2025, Minister for Justice and Home Affairs.
Draft Social Security Law (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202-. P.92/2025. Lodged: 27th October 2025, Minister for Social Security.
Draft Social Security Law (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202- (P.92/2025): P.92/2025. amendment. Amd. Lodged: 10th November 2025, Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache of St. Clement .
Draft Finance (2026 Budget) (Jersey) Law 202-. P.93/2025. Lodged: 27th October 2025, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Management and Maintenance of the Havre des Pas Site. P.94/2025. Lodged: 28th October 2025, Deputy D.J. Warr of St. Helier South .
Draft Public Records (Jersey) Amendment Law 202-. P.95/2025. Lodged: 28th October 2025, Minister for Sustainable Economic Development.
Suspension of Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour . P.96/2025. Lodged: 28th October 2025, Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Draft Animal Welfare (Jersey) Law 202-. P.97/2025. Lodged: 29th October 2025, Minister for the Environment.
Draft Registrar of Intellectual Property (Jersey) Law 202-. P.98/2025. Lodged: 29th October 2025, Minister for External Relations.
Draft Taxation (International Tax Compliance) (Crypto-Asset Reporting Framework) P.99/2025. (Jersey) Regulations 202-.
Lodged: 29th October 2025, Minister for External Relations.
Draft Taxation (Implementation) (International Tax Compliance) (Common Reporting P.100/2025. Standard) (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202-.
Lodged: 29th October 2025, Minister for External Relations.
Breaches of the Code of Conduct: review of Standing Orders. P.101/2025. Lodged: 4th November 2025, Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour .
Amendments to Standing Orders – Code of Conduct. P.102/2025. Lodged: 11th November 2025, Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Amendments to Standing Orders – Jersey Youth Assembly. P.103/2025. Lodged: 11th November 2025, Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Draft Elections (Jersey) Amendment No. 2 Law 202-. P.104/2025. Lodged: 11th November 2025, Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Written Questions
(see Official Report/Hansard)
WQ.391/2025 1. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 27th October 2025 to a
question asked by Deputy D.J. Warr of St. Helier South regarding information collected on the prescribing of medicinal cannabis.
WQ.392/2025 2. The Chair of the States Employment Board had tabled an answer on 27th October 2025 to a
question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding subsidies towards school fees for permanent or fixed-term contract States employees.
WQ.393/2025 3. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 27th October 2025 to a
question asked by Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding the Covid and flu vaccination programmes.
WQ.394/2025 4. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 27th October 2025 to a question
asked by Deputy K.M. Wilson of St. Clement regarding all Infrastructure capital schemes initiated, allocated or completed since he took office.
WQ.395/2025 5. The Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee had tabled an answer on 27th October
2025 to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade regarding emails sent from members of the public to all States Members.
WQ.396/2025 6. The Chair of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (Jersey Branch) Executive
Committee had tabled an answer on 3rd November 2025 to a question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding overseas trips undertaken on Commonwealth Parliamentary Association business since June 2022.
WQ.397/2025 7. The Minister for Justice and Home Affairs had tabled an answer on 3rd November 2025 to a
question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding the data collected in relation to knife crime in schools.
WQ.398/2025 8. The Chair of the States Employment Board had tabled an answer on 3rd November 2025 to
a question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding the rationale for the current Civil Service recruitment freeze.
WQ.399/2025 9. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 3rd November 2025 to a question
asked by Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding scallop catches in Jersey's territorial waters.
WQ.400/2025 10. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 3rd November 2025 to a question
asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding the creation of a playing field for First Tower School.
WQ.401/2025 11. The Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning had tabled an answer on 3rd November
2025 to a question asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding progress on the implementation of Higher Education Funding', as amended (P.12/2024).
WQ.402/2025 12. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 3rd November 2025 to a question
asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding the cost of fully repairing the Victoria Marine Lake.
WQ.403/2025 13. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 3rd November
2025 to a question asked by Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding the Planning Application (P/2025/0774) for a hotel at Strive Jersey.
WQ.404/2025 14. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 3rd November
2025 to a question asked by Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade regarding the sound and lighting system at Jersey Opera House.
WQ.405/2025 15. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 3rd November
2025 to a question asked by Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding the amount of time from the availability timetable at Strive that had been utilised since 2017.
WQ.406/2025 16. The Minister for External Relations had tabled an answer on 3rd November 2025 to a question
asked by Deputy K.M. Wilson of St. Clement regarding the current state of Jersey's engagement with the European Union and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.
WQ.407/2025 17. The Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee had tabled an answer on 10th
November 2025 to a question asked by Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache of St. Clement regarding the budget allocated to the Judicial Greffe for the 2026 Election.
WQ.408/2025 18. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 10th November 2025 to a
question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding the total cost of developing the new hospital.
WQ.409/2025 19. The Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning had tabled an answer on 10th November
2025 to a question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding the number of consultants and agency staff employed in his department.
WQ.410/2025 20. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 10th November 2025 to a question asked by
Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding the Expenditure Growth Allocation of £52,703,000 for 2026.
WQ.411/2025 21. The Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee had tabled an answer on 10th
November 2025 to a question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding an update on the implementation of the Automatic Voter Registration project.
WQ.412/2025 22. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 10th November 2025 to a
question asked by Deputy S.M. Ahier of St. Helier North regarding the IFC2 project. WQ.413/2025 23. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 10th
November 2025 to a question asked by Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding funds
disbursed under the Marine Support Scheme.
WQ.414/2025 24. The Minister for Justice and Home Affairs had tabled an answer on 10th November 2025 to
a question asked by Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding the number of serious case reviews and rapid reviews relating to safeguarding issues.
WQ.415/2025 25. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 10th
November 2025 to a question asked by Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade regarding commercial outlets at Jersey Airport accepting cash payments.
WQ.416/2025 26. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 10th
November 2025 to a question asked by Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade regarding the Elizabeth Terminal Café concession.
WQ.417/2025 27. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 10th November 2025 to a question
asked by Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South regarding the new mobile speed camera and the Island's highway legislation.
WQ.418/2025 28. The Minister for Justice and Home Affairs had tabled an answer on 10th November 2025 to
a question asked by Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South regarding the new mobile speed camera and the Road Traffic (Jersey) Law 1956.
WQ.419/2025 29. The Minister for Children and Families had tabled an answer on 10th November 2025 to a
question asked by Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding the number of serious case reviews and rapid reviews relating to safeguarding issues.
WQ.420/2025 30. The Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning had tabled an answer on 10th November
2025 to a question asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding pilot projects instigated to improve early years outcomes for children.
WQ.421/2025 31. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 10th November 2025 to a question
asked by Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John , St. Lawrence and Trinity regarding the new map developed by Jersey Property Holdings that allowed Islanders to see if their property was suitable for solar panels.
WQ.422/2025 32. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 10th November 2025 to a question asked by
Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding the 2026 funding allocation to the Common Strategic Policies.
Oral Questions
(see Official Report/Hansard)
OQ.251/2025 1. Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Treasury and
Resources regarding the Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2026-2029 being considered as a "bridging budget",
OQ.241/2025 2. Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North asked a question of the Minister for Justice and
Home Affairs regarding the impact on animals of the use of fireworks.
OQ.245/2025 3. Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John , St. Lawrence and Trinity asked a question of the Minister for
the Environment regarding the proposed reductions to his department's budget.
OQ.247/2025 4. Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding the total cost of Covid and flu vaccines that were not used.
OQ.253/2025 5. Deputy D.J. Warr of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social
Services regarding the EU Good Manufacturing Practice.
OQ.248/2025 6. Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social
Services regarding vaccine-related injuries.
OQ.243/2025 7. Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for Health
and Social Services regarding adequate support for Islanders experiencing mental health problems.
OQ.242/2025 8. Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache of St. Clement asked a question of the Chair of the Privileges and
Procedures Committee regarding Children's Rights Impact Assessments.
OQ.255/2025 9. Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding an
Equality Impact Evaluation.
OQ.250/2025 10. Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the 2026
actuarial review of the Social Security Fund.
OQ.244/2025 11. Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North asked a question of the Minister for Treasury and
Resources regarding a Corporate Social Investment Allowance scheme.
OQ.254/2025 12. Deputy D.J. Warr of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social
Services regarding prescribing medicinal cannabis for Islanders with serious mental health problems.
OQ.249/2025 13. Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North asked a question of the Minister for Education and
Lifelong Learning regarding his decision not to extend the clinical component grant to students studying in key skill-shortage areas.
OQ.246/2025 14. Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John , St. Lawrence and Trinity asked a question of the Chief
Minister regarding the Investing in Jersey: 2026-2050' programme.
OQ.252/2025 15. Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Housing regarding the
status of the housing market.
Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)
The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development answered questions without notice from members. The Minister for Treasury and Resources answered questions without notice from members.
The Chief Minister answered questions without notice from members.
Statements on a matter of official responsibility (see Official Report/Hansard)
The Chair of the Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel made a Statement regarding its report entitled What protection do children in Jersey have from online harms?' (S.R.4/2025).
Arrangement of public business for the present meeting
THE STATES, adopting the request of the Chair of the Comité des Connétable s, agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of its amendment (P.68/2025 Amd.Amd) to the amendment of the Council of Ministers (P.68/2025 Amd.) to the proposition of Deputy Helen Mary Miles of St. Brelade entitled Commercial Properties and Leases' (P.68/2025) in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 43 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy I. Gardiner Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy S.Y. Mézec Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy T.A. Coles Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy R.S. Kovacs Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES, adopting the request of the Minister for Sustainable Economic Development, agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of the amendment of the Council of Ministers (P.68/2025 Amd.) to the proposition of Deputy Helen Mary Miles of St. Brelade entitled Commercial Properties and Leases' (P.68/2025) in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.
THE STATES rejected the request of Deputy David James Warr of St. Helier South , in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of his proposition entitled Management and Maintenance of the Havre des Pas Site' (P.94/2025) in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 12 CONTRE: 33 ABSTAINED: 0
STATES MINUTES
Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy R.S. Kovacs
Deputy K.M. Wilson
Deputy M.B. Andrews
11th November 2025
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy I.J. Gorst
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey
Deputy A.F. Curtis
Deputy B. Ward
Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson
THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106, the Connétable of St. Clement declared an interest in the subject of the proposition of Deputy David James Warr of St. Helier South in that he was a Director of the Company that had been recommended for the tender and, as the interest was a financial interest that was personal to him, he withdrew from the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition.
Proposal to suspend Standing Order 21AA(2) under Standing Order 80 – ruling by the Bailiff The Bailiff made the following ruling regarding the application of Standing Order 80 –
"Standing Order 80 provides that a Member of the States may propose without notice that one or more Standing Orders may be suspended for a specified purpose. It has been understood for the last 16 years that that Standing Order does not permit suspension of part of a Standing Order. I accept that it is possible for a presiding officer to differ from the ruling of a previous presiding officer, but in my judgment only in circumstances where they are satisfied that the earlier ruling was wrong. I note from Erskine May, the Speaker's rulings constitute precedents by which subsequent Speakers, members and officers are guided. Such precedents are noted, and in the course of time may be formulated as principles or rules of practice. They are an important source of determining how the House, in our case the Assembly, conducts its business. It has been long understood that it was not possible or indeed appropriate to suspend part of a Standing Order. Indeed, those are the terms, in my judgment,
of Standing Order 80. As to the suggestion that Standing Order 21AA infringes a fundamental rule of democracy. Well, it is the Assembly itself that has determined that propositions to suspend a Member for a certain action under 21A are determined in public, but propositions to suspend a Member as a neutral act are to be held in camera. In any event, I am satisfied that the interpretation that has held good for the last 16 years holds good today, and according to the proposition that you seek to make is not in order."
Application of Standing Order 21AA and the provisions of Standing Orders 82 and 164 – ruling by the Bailiff
The Bailiff made the following ruling regarding the application of Standing Order 21AA and the provisions of Standing Orders 82 and 164 –
"I have been asked to provide guidance on the application of Standing Order 21AA, Additional Requirements for Propositions to Suspend Member as a Neutral Act, and to remind Members of the provisions of Standing Order 82, Arrangements for Conducting Business in Camera, and the consequential impact of such a suspension in relation to Standing Order 164, Suspension of Member of the States. Members may be aware that under Standing Order 107, the Presiding Officer may direct Members not to refer to matters relevant to any proceedings pending in any court. Standing Order 104(2)(g) states that when speaking, a Member must not refer to a case pending in a court of law in such a way as might prejudice the case. Clearly, those Standing Orders are pertinent to the proposition to be debated. However, given that the debate will take place in camera, the debate ought not to prejudice the court sentencing that will take place next year or the trial of the co-defendant. Members are reminded that once the Greffier reads out the proposition, we will move into camera. All strangers are required to withdraw. The gallery will be cleared, and the public entrance will be closed.
The individual currently in the gallery is a log noter from the Greffe, and she is present in order to produce a transcript, and will be required to stay when we go into camera. The debate will not be broadcast on the States Assembly webcast, but will be recorded so a transcript can be produced as an historical record, but will not be made publicly available. Once the debate has concluded, we will return to public forum and the vote will be taken in public. There may need to be a short pause in proceedings to enable the webcasting to resume. I would ask that Members remain respectful of the in-camera process and keep any background discussions to a minimum during that time. I would also emphasise that any public disclosure by a Member of what was discussed during this debate held in- camera would constitute a serious breach of the Code of Conduct. If the proposition to suspend Deputy Ozouf as a neutral act is adopted, Standing Order 164 would apply. Standing Order 164 does not remove an elected Member from office. Its application simply limits the activity of a suspended Member in the ways described. The Standing Order does not contain provisions in the event that someone is suspended as a neutral act in relation to attendance and participation in States meetings. The dictionary definition of "suspension" is an interruption or temporary revocation, and that must be the intention of Standing Order 164, whether in relation to suspension for certain acts or as a neutral act. Although the Standing Order does not specifically reference attendance at States meetings, including through remote participation, it must be the underlying purpose of suspension and therefore Standing Order 164. The other consequential effects listed in the Standing Order are additional to that fundamental. Part (1)(b) of the Standing Order therefore prevents a suspended Member from lodging a proposition, submitting any questions, or presenting anything to the Assembly. That reinforces and clarifies the conclusion that a Member suspended, whether as a neutral act or as a sanction for certain reasons, cannot participate in meetings of the States. Therefore, should the proposition be adopted, the Deputy 's parliamentary activity must cease during the period of suspension. He may not lodge propositions in his own right or submit questions. He may also not take part in the proceedings of parliamentary committees and panels, including P.P.C. and its subcommittee, or scrutiny panels and the P.A.C. (Public Accounts Committee). He may not attend briefings provided to States Members. While Standing Order 164 affects a suspended Member's parliamentary work in the way set out, it does not, however, affect their ability to work with and on behalf of their constituents or their entitlement to remuneration as a Member. That work is an inherent part of their office as elected
Member and Standing Order 164 makes no reference to constituency work. A suspended Member may therefore continue with their constituency work, although whether they do so is a matter of personal and political choice for the Member concerned. That means a suspended Member may still meet constituents and act on their behalf provided that to do so does not involve the parliamentary work they are prescribed from doing. They may therefore correspond with government departments and others on constituents' behalf, and they may access those services provided by the State's Greffe for constituency work. As a result, a suspended Member must continue to have access to the Microsoft account provided for all elected Members so they can use their email account and can communicate. They would therefore continue on the email distribution and in the Microsoft team for all Members. I also remind Members attending remotely that they are bound by all the obligations in relation to this in-camera debate as Members who are present in person."
Suspension of Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour P.96/2025
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Privileges and Procedures Committee entitled Suspension of Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour ' (P.96/2025). The Bailiff , in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 82, ordered all strangers to withdraw from the precincts of the States and the doors of the Chamber to be closed.
THE STATES, having concluded the debate in camera, proceeded to vote in public and, adopting the proposition, suspended Deputy Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf of St. Saviour as a neutral act in accordance with Standing Order 21AA with immediate effect until his pending Court case was concluded.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 31
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy M.R. Ferey
CONTRE: 8
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet
ABSTAINED: 6
Connétable of Trinity Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy D.J. Warr Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy M.B. Andrews
Deputy R.S. Kovacs Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward
Draft Harbours (Inshore Safety) (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202- P.3/2025
THE STATES resumed consideration of the Draft Harbours (Inshore Safety) (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202-, the principles having been adopted on 8th July 2025, and adopted Regulations 1 to 5.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 43 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAINED: 0 Connétable of St. Helier Deputy G.P. Southern
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet
Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat
Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy I.J. Gorst
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée
Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet
Deputy M.R. Ferey
Deputy R.S. Kovacs
Deputy A.F. Curtis
Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson
Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES made Regulations entitled the Harbours (Inshore Safety) (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 2025, under Article 4 of the Harbours (Administration) (Jersey) Law 1961 and Article 49 of the Shipping (Jersey) Law 2002.
Draft Regulation of Care (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- P.57/2025
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Regulation of Care (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 46 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet
Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy R.S. Kovacs Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 4.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 46 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet
Deputy M.R. Ferey
Deputy R.S. Kovacs
Deputy A.F. Curtis
Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of His Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Regulation of Care (Jersey) Amendment Law 202-.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 46 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet
Deputy M.R. Ferey
Deputy R.S. Kovacs
Deputy A.F. Curtis
Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 12th November 2025 to commence consideration of the Draft Dogs Law (Jersey) Amendment Regulations 202- (P.63/2025) and the other outstanding propositions listed for consideration at the meeting.
THE STATES rose at 5.24 p.m.
L.-M. HART Greffier of the States