States Minutes 9 July 2025
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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 9th July 2025, at 9.30 a.m. under
the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Sir Timothy John Le Cocq .
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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Connétable Deidre Wendy Mezbourian of St. Lawrence – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 2.39 p.m.)
Connétable Marcus O'Donnel Troy of St. Clement – excused attendance
Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier Central – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.41 a.m.)
Deputy Lyndon John Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.38 a.m.) Deputy Sir Philip Martin Bailhache of St. Clement – excused attendance
Deputy Raluca Stefana Kovacs of St. Saviour – excused attendance
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Prayers
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Standing Order 55A – remote participation
THE STATES, with reference to their Act dated 14th September 2021, in which they had agreed that, notwithstanding Standing Order 55A(1), Members who did not wish to attend in the States Chamber might continue to take part in States meetings using Microsoft Teams (until the States had considered and voted upon a proposition to re-apply Standing Order 55A(1) or to repeal or vary the terms of the Standing Order), assembled in accordance with Standing Order 55A with Members able to participate remotely using Microsoft Teams. The following Members attended remotely, either for all or part of the meeting –
Deputy Carina Soares Alves of St. Helier Central
Deputy Kristina Louise Moore of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter Deputy Beatriz Borges de Sousa Vaz Moreno Porée of St. Helier South
Documents presented
Chief Statistician's Annual Report 2024. R.111/2025. Presented: 9th July 2025, Chief Minister.
Personal statement
(see Official Report/Hansard)
Deputy Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf of St. Saviour made a personal statement. Privileges and Procedures Committee – appointment of members
In accordance with Standing Order 122(1), the following nominations were made by the Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee, as members of the Committee who were not Ministers or Assistant Ministers –
Deputy Kristina Louise Moore of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter
Deputy Thomas Antony Coles of St. Helier South
Deputy Lucy Kate Frances Stephenson of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter .
There being no other nominations, the Bailiff accordingly declared that Deputy Kristina Louise Moore of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter , Deputy Thomas Antony Coles of St. Helier South and Deputy Lucy Kate Frances Stephenson of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter were duly appointed as members of the Privileges and Procedures Committee.
The following nominations were made by the Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee as members of the Committee who were Ministers or Assistant Ministers –
Deputy Carina Soares Alves of St. Helier Central Deputy Malcolm Ross Ferey of St. Saviour
There being no other nominations, the Bailiff accordingly declared that Deputy Carina Soares Alves of St. Helier Central and Deputy Malcolm Ross Ferey of St. Saviour had been duly appointed as members of the Privileges and Procedures Committee.
The following nomination was made by the Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee as a member of the Committee who was a member of the Scrutiny Liaison Committee –
Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade
Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour was nominated by Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier North
THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were informed of the following results by the Bailiff –
Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade 34 Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour 11
The Bailiff accordingly declared that Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade had been duly appointed as a member of the Privileges and Procedures Committee who was a member of the Scrutiny Liaison Committee.
New Usher – Welcome
The Bailiff , on behalf of members, welcomed Brian Standring, the new Usher who was present in the Chamber.
Draft Residential Tenancy (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- P.24/2025
THE STATES, resuming consideration of the Draft Residential Tenancy (Jersey) Amendment Law 202-, adopted a proposition of Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier North that, in accordance with Standing Order 79(1), the Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Scrutiny Panel should be requested to consider having the Draft Law referred to it.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 23 CONTRE: 22 ABSTAINED: 0 Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Helier
STATES MINUTES
Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy S.G. Luce Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier Deputy I. Gardiner Deputy I.J. Gorst Deputy D.J. Warr Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy A. Howell Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy M.B. Andrews
9th July 2025
Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson
Draft Financial Services (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- P.41/2025
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Financial Services (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 41 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy S.Y. Mézec Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet
Deputy M.R. Ferey
Deputy A.F. Curtis
Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson
Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 11.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy I.J. Gorst
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of His Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Financial Services (Jersey) Amendment Law 202-.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy I.J. Gorst
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
Draft Bank (Recovery and Resolution) (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- P.42/2025
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Bank (Recovery and Resolution) (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy I.J. Gorst
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES, having been informed by the Chair of the Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 72(1), he wished to have the Draft Bank (Recovery and Resolution) (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- referred to that Scrutiny Panel, agreed that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 72(6), the 2nd reading of the draft Law should be listed to continue on 30th September 2025.
Draft Criminal Justice (Young Offenders) (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- P.43/2025
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Criminal Justice (Young Offenders) (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 40 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy I.J. Gorst
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 3.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 40 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy I.J. Gorst
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of His Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Criminal Justice (Young Offenders) (Jersey) Amendment Law 202-.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 41 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy I.J. Gorst
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy A. Howell
Deputy M.R. Ferey
Deputy A.F. Curtis
Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson
Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
Draft Civil Status (Abolition of Legitimacy Etc.) (Jersey) Law 202- P.44/2025
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Civil Status (Abolition of Legitimacy Etc.) (Jersey) Law 202- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy I.J. Gorst
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy K.L. Moore
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet
Deputy M.R. Ferey
Deputy A.F. Curtis
Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson
Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 8.
44 Members voted Pour' but it was not possible to determine the names of those Members from the electronic voting system. There were 0 votes Contre' and 0 abstentions.
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of His Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Civil Status (Abolition of Legitimacy Etc.) (Jersey) Law 202-.
43 Members voted Pour' but it was not possible to determine the names of those Members from the electronic voting system. There were 0 votes Contre' and 0 abstentions.
Changes in Presidency
The Bailiff retired from the Chamber during consideration of the Draft Civil Status (Abolition of Legitimacy Etc.) (Jersey) Law 202- and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr. William John Charles Millow , Deputy Greffier of the States.
Jersey Police Complaints Authority: appointment of Members P.47/2025
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Justice and Home Affairs entitled Jersey Police Complaints Authority: appointment of Members' (P.47/2025), appointed, in accordance with Article 2 of, and the Schedule to, the Police (Complaints and Discipline) (Jersey) Law 1999, the following individuals as members of the Police Complaints Authority, each for a period of 3 years that commenced immediately –
• Mrs. Andrea Robottom
• Mr. Ian Johnson
• Ms. Val Cartwright
• Mr. Tim Rogers
42 Members voted Pour' but it was not possible to determine the names of those Members from the electronic voting system. There were 0 votes Contre' and 0 abstentions.
Meanwhile use of the former Gas Place site P.48/2025
THE STATES, commencing consideration of a proposition of Deputy David James Warr of St. Helier South entitled Meanwhile use of the former Gas Place site' (P.48/2025), rejected an amendment of Deputy Alexander Frederick Curtis of St. Clement (P.48/2025 Amd.) that –
- the existing wording be redesignated as paragraph (a);
- after the words "local shareholders" there should be inserted the words "with any development to consider community or short-term economic uses (including temporary tenancies) provided such use does not impede any long-term plans for future development;" and after the words "beneficial to the community" there should be inserted the words "or be economically constructive in the interim";
- and after paragraph (a), there should be inserted a new paragraph (b) as follows –
"(b) that in the event the site is acquired by the public of the Island, or by any publicly owned or
States-owned entity, the expectations in paragraphs (a) and (b) shall continue to apply under such ownership until development for long-term use commences.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 16 CONTRE: 26 ABSTAINED: 0
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy S.M. Ahier
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy H.L. Jeune
Deputy A.F. Curtis
Deputy B. Ward
Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson
Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern
Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy C.S. Alves
Deputy L.J. Farnham
Deputy S.Y. Mézec
Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf
Deputy T.A. Coles
Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy C.D. Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham
Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy A. Howell
Deputy T.J.A. Binet
Deputy M.R. Ferey
Deputy K.M. Wilson
Deputy M.B. Andrews
THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106, Deputy Stephen George Luce of Grouville and St. Martin had declared an interest in the subject of the proposition of Deputy David James Warr of St. Helier South , in that the proposition focussed on a single site and, as Minister for the Environment, he might ultimately be required to make a planning determination in respect of that site. The Deputy withdrew from the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition.
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 10th July 2025 to continue consideration of a proposition of Deputy David James Warr of St. Helier South entitled Meanwhile use of the former Gas Place site' (P.48/2025) and the other outstanding propositions listed for the meeting.
THE STATES rose at 5.28 p.m.
W.J.C. MILLOW Deputy Greffier of the States